1. starbase of uber-not-dieing ness... gazillion hp+30 armor+massave regneration +weapon uber effective agaisnt captial ships+MOVING... ok, so bombers still win... but you have "jam weapons" for that.

2. scouts... your scouts are uuuber... well, actually they kinda suck compared to other scouts considering thier fleet supply costs... just liek all the other vasari ships... BUT... you have the ability to caputer neutrals with your scouts!... THIS IS GAME CHANGING... games are won and lost due to neutrals... it is nessary that in any multiplayer team of 3v3 or higher that there are at least one vasari on your team to fight over the neutrals.

3. death egg... slightly nerfed now... but still very powerzorfull. their planet bomber is now rediculously sexy pwn... it kills planets faster than a maza now... and its lv 6 ablity... is like... supppananno+suppaheal

4. phase missles... bypassing that 60%+ shield mitigation is really... really... powerfull... and thier flack, lrm, fighters, bombers, and most of thier caps use them... this is the most effective weapon research line in the game.

5. RUN AWAY... varari are the best at running away... if you lost your fleet its cause you did something wrong... a late game vasari fleet may be weaker compared to a equlivent advent or tec fleet, but you should be able to use your phase gates/mauraders to run away and bypass phase jump disrupters...  and your also craxy good at making the enemy not being able to run away... phase inhibitors at tech level 2... and grav bomb... grav bomb + inhibitors... = death to fleets...  you should never ever have to fight a battle when your on thier terms, and you should always end up fighting on YOUR terms. force them to fight on your terms.

6. ???

7. profit.

um that is 30% for stock Sins

you are getting Distant Stars mixed in there, dont worry I do it too

but yeah still 30% shield bypass is another thing to consider, especially against those freaks call Advent

edit: miss read your post

d'oh facepalm with a godsmack

ya. your bypassing thier 60%+ shield mitigation 30% of the time... ya. i dont play your mod that much that i forget that simple stuff. (unless i feel like keeling your pathetic pirates.... teehee)

The most recent patch turned the Kortul into an absolute monster.  I had a Kortul that singlehandedly fought off two AI fleets (caps and all) over the course of an hour without ever depleting its shields.  I had to research antimatter regeneration upgrades, but it basically was an invulnerable engine of death.

Now, I love the new Kortul, but the Jerrasul Evacuator remains an awesome powerhouse thanks to nano disassemblers.  The ability ignores armour, shields, and shield mitigation; it says it deals 25 damage per second and that's exactly how many hull points the target loses every second.  Absolutely marvellous; a death sentence to most frigates and very deadly to capital ships and starbases alike.

And let's not forget the Skirantra carrier.  Repair cloud is like shield restore for hulls, which is pretty darned awesome.  While your Skirantra has antimatter, your fleet is virtually impervious to damage.  But that's enough about Vasari capital ships.

Oh, and as others have mentioned: phase missiles.  Absolutely amazing weapons.  No other attack in the game comes close to the amazing power of phase missiles.

I was writing a response and it turned in a basic guide for units. it was waaay too long, and entirely too detailed.

I only play as Vasari. I have tried the other races, but nothing works for me more. I am just too... brutal. The other races require more microing, more balance and finesse. Vasari requires that you pick out what works, build a bunch of them and curb stomp some people. Other than the support cap, the updated capitals are pretty much amazing. The only reason I don't like the support though is the fact that if you are building it, and burning the crew and fleet capacity is that you feel you need an extra edge for escaping. Now I'm not much a quitter, so I never build one.

The starbase is almost orgasmic. It eats fleets faster than any other starbase. and for fun, if you have locked teams, build one in range of an allieys advent battle ball. good bye everything. actually do it even in unlocked teams and watch your ally (soon to be betrayed and wronged) scream and cry as your starbase devours his. plus it moves ... like a glacier. don't get too cocky about this. an enemy can easily come in and hurt you while your orky is waddling back over to them. you still have to position it strategically.

the frigates are mostly lack luster, they serve their purpose, nothing too special, pretty similar with all the races. the cruisers though are pretty sweet. especially with the update that fixed my personal bug of enforcers not firing. you have the typical carrier, then the ability annihilating support cruiser (so much time laughing as other support cruisers wuss out without being able to do anything), then the phase degrading overseer, that also heals (which makes the time it takes the enemy to get get to you slower... allowing for more healing and shield regen) and then the enforcer. in terms of heavy cruiser.. i really feel that this cant be beat. theyre tough, strong, and powerful. the additional ability to slow escaping units is nice too. The minelayer.. meh. He has a hilarious voice. and grav mines are nice (when they work).

All in all, I would say that the vasari is the race you pick when you want to destroy, betray and maim.

(this still turned out majorly long)

A part of what I like about the Vasari are there mobility. As antechtaire pointed out phase gates are austouding. Having 4 or 5 of them are worth 2 or 3 extra fleets because your fleets can be right where you want them. It speads up your flow of new ships if you put one where a factory is and one where you want the ships.

Nothing more needs to be said about phase missles except that working on one tree upgrades the LRF, the flack, the bombers and the fighters. It makes the Vasari very good at killing things.

I only play Vasari for these reasons and for one other. They have the best voices. I cant stand the advent and the TEC's LRM voice pisses me off when I hear it. He has such pride when he says "All ordanece acounted for!!!!" He should not be commanding a ship.

Naw... I'm pretty sure they just probe you with weird vibrating objects that are made by the Japanese. Poor uncle Pete.

minus the Marauder, it has to hold the phase gate

edit: double post

The Starbase phase gates are massively bugged anyway... they only work in one damned direction (I forget at the moment whether or not it is coming to or going from (I think it's coming to)). And if that's not a bug... shame on you, IC! Cuz g'damnit for a gate not to flow both ways makes little sense (other than from a kostura, as that's more like riding the phase-wake of the shell into the system, so it's ok - although if it just lasted 10-15 more seconds it'd be PERFECT).

For that matter... just beware phase gates in general, there are all kinds of strange little bugs that only seem to crop up sporadically. Fiesty nanite clusters developing a goblin personality, I guess.

A note on the Marauders: "Jump inhibition immune" does NOT apply to Starbase phase lane destabilization, they still take the 30% hull and 100% antimatter hit (boo!!!). Also, they hit like girls. I mean honestly, I think a Skirmisher does more damage, it's sad, they need dps lovin'.

And last but not least: ALWAYS build Marauders in pairs or more. They are (almost) USELESS by themselves, but work very well in packs. Oh, and Subversion (effect, not duration, duration just refreshes) stacks... I think infinitely, so you can slow down an enemy world's production to a snail's pace - and it gives you a remote sensor on the world to boot. IMO Marauders are fun toys in singple-player, but really shine with creative use in Multi-player.

Happy subjugating!

-Itharus

wait wait wait. If you fire the kostura cannon, you can follow it in? is that what was said/inferred? holy crap< i didnt know that.

Yeah with starbases i have never gotten the phase lane ability to work both ways... and im not sure why.

I havent played vanilla in a while. ok,so do you have to wait for it to hit, or can you go as soon as it fires? also im assuming you have to be starting from the same gravity well? does this work across stars? this is basically a game ender, and its really wipe the smug-ass grin from my roommates face.

the shot must land first.  then you can jump to that world.

And the only way to take down the new Kortul is by depleating it's antimater.  Get Caps that can shut it down! No antimater means