DreamMystic

Advent is suppose to have weak economy, their strength is suppose to be in culture. However with culture its as if they have no starting advantage at all, its laughable compared to the economic advantages of TEC. The current state of it doesn't pose much of a threat, no matter how much money you invest in the culture techs. The result is still the same, which is easily negated by making your own broadcast center and placing a cap ship on that planet to repel the culture. Whats even wor

This is probably the biggest concept to understand in a pvp game. What targets go down first and in what order. Focusing on the wrong target can lead to the enemies victory. Mainly, I pvp in Guild Wars. But I've also pvped for years in Lineage 2 and WoW. Usually when a player is inexperienced they focus on the wrong target, in mmo pvp you might see someone targetting a dagger user while the healer is in the back spam healing them. Thus their efforts are useless. I feel the same mecha

Nope no siege unit cost decrease for advent. Who knows why, the same can be said for the drone host cost increase. It really doesn't bother me, though it would be nice if explanations were given for these type of changes. Because they seem rather erratic.

[quote]Are you joking?Increased reasons gives you more for building Heavy Cruisers too.Jesus christ I hate to even have to point this out, but I know some people will read what you said and take it seriously because they can't think rationally for themselves.[/quote] Does it look like I'm joking? So what that you can build more heavy cruisers? Thats not my point, the point is that the drone host cost increase isn't to bad. If you don't agree with what I said, I can care less. But the fa

[quote]I Still have yet to play the new patch but it sounds like they NERFED THE CARRIERS? wth, my carriers are a big part of my fleet, they provide support against most units and they NERFED them aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ahem, well anywho, im off to test out this claim, and should if find it right,HULK GET ANGERY [/quote] The patch notes don't show how they added extra resources on planets, which offsets the price increase. In fact I will say that it negates it e

I wouldn't say its perfect, but its better. I want to see culture eventually looked at, but mainly it would be nice to add a info card for culture when present on your planet/s. For instance, when you high light your planet it shows that culture has increased your resources by 10% and the bonus you get for your units. A way to reconnect to a game if you crash would be nice too, but thats probably a bit more complex to implement. For graphics it would be nice if they did something about

[quote]I think the cost was increased to prevent Drone Host spamming, people cruising through a system with 50 squadrons and decimating things in a few seconds. Also, additional resource satellites means its easier to get crystal now. I say play the game for a while and see how things shake up.[/quote] Not sure what game you were playing. But the ones I play have players cruising through solar systems with swarms of cobalts and lrms destroying everything: Structures, cap ships and units

Ya, Illuminator is slick now. The drone host nerf is questionable, BUT I noticed astroids now have 3 extractors instead of 2. And those gas planets have 3 also. So that sort of balances things out a bit. A big plus is the black market, its much better. One thing that still bothers me is LRMs. Drones do counter them, but they are so fragile that they are easily picked off.

Just build communication towers and trade ports. Personally I don't have a problem with the further the planet the less the allegiance.

[quote]He was being sarcastic.l2humor P.S. lol[/quote] Not sure how it could be taken seriously. But I guess sarcasm can be hard to spot.

[quote]-Siege Frigates:-Build costs decreased by ~15%.As I was updating my ship chart, I noticed this was not applied to Advent.[/quote] Kru, Advent siege unit supply cost was reduced by 1. From 15-->14. Not sure how useful that can be.

Cool, thx for the update.

[quote]Hey I'm there!Hi guys.[/quote] You are famous!

I finally understand guys. The balance IC is going for is not with individual units its with the factions. TEC= Awesome Vasari=OK and Advent=The suck. Now if they actually made advent "ok" or "awesome" then the game would be unbalanced. Since there can only be one awesome and ok faction. Someone needs to fill the role of being the worst and thats advent. So no advent won't get any boosts only nerfs, because if they get a boost it might actually make them ok or awesome. And IC doesn't wa

[quote]Perhaps they did it to balance things out since the illuminator is much more powerful now.[/quote] Its more like since they made Illums not suck. Sarcasm aside, if that was the case then TEC carriers should be the most expensive since their LRMs cost the least.

[quote]-Siege Frigates:-Build costs decreased by ~15%.As I was updating my ship chart, I noticed this was not applied to Advent.[/quote] Go figure!

ROFL sounds about right. Ironclad is starting to remind me of Ncsoft(devs of Lineage 2). Where there philosophy of balance was backwards. One class being two shotted by another was considered working as intended. In Ironclad's case, a faction that makes the least MUST have units that cost the most. And since they cost the most they must be the least effective of the three factions. And they must not have any viable counters to the other two factions to ensure that they are easy to destroy. <

[quote]Wow. This is the biggest f*** up ever. Totally uncalled for. A major mistake.IC, what could you possibly have been thinking?Strike craft are already so fragile as to make flaks overwhelmingly cost effective against them, without making them exorbitantly expensive to even field.Did you get tired of trying to balance them so you just did this to suggest to everyone not to even try to use them?[/quote] Whats even worse is that only advent got their carrier price increased. I can say

[quote]The patch note is an error, not the data. The Drone host should have been a seperate line.[/quote] I see, so what is the reasoning behind the price increase for Advent and the price decrease for TEC and Vasari? I honestly don't understand. The only thing I can guess is that advent is suppose to get wiped out in the early game.

Despite what the patch notes to 1.04 states: -Carriers -Slight cost reductions for all carrier cruisers What it really should state is: -Carriers -Slight cost reductions for TEC and Vasari Carriers and a huge increase to Advent Carriers. Here is what I found everyone: Drone Hosts 1.03 cost: 450$ 100m 50c 1.04 cost: 485$ 90m 85c Percheron Light Carrier 1.03 cost: 475$ 100m 90c 1.04 cost: 470$ 85m 75c Lasurak

I thought carrier crusiers cost less in 1.04? The only thing that went down is the metal cost. For advent drones the old price was 450$ 100m 50c now its 485$ 90m 85c. How is that a cost reduction? LOL Its a increase, a big one at that. Drone Hosts 1.03 cost: 450$ 100m 50c 1.04 cost: 485$ 90m 85c Percheron Light Carrier 1.03 cost: 475$ 100m 90c 1.04 cost: 470$ 85m 75c Lasurak Transporter 1.03 cost: 490$ 110m 95c

[quote]ive never really experimented with the Rapture's vengence. now that u mentioned it i'll check it out.[/quote] I have no idea how Vengeance works. Since there is no damage log, its hard how it exactly works. I'm not certain if works like during a a duration any damage done to your ship, a portion is reflect back. Or if it works like the next attack that hits you, a portion is reflect back. The first one would make more sense since there are tons of units attacking you at once, plu

[quote]Wow, I can honestly say I have never seen this or any slowdowns. I do have an ATI card though. My impression that the last few Nvidia driver releases have been pretty crappy. Who knows. But there must be a difference between the way ATI and Nvidia render those effects.[/quote] Nah its not the drivers. At least I don't think so. You could try to get a whole bunch of guardians and let them spam their shield skill. Thats when the slowdown occurs. Other than that I'm at 60fps@ 1680x1

[quote]Good Reply mystic, but i think ur original response to this thread was very disrespectful to the developers.Actually end game is a problem for everyone except vasari. Of course advents are the most powerful race per capita.Early game, i can meet a javalis lrm rush. seriously. It's not about practice, it's about malice + illum. I understand what you are saying about a cobalt rush, and that is the one thing that really really hurts advent. How to beat it? Well, since anyone can get spun aro

[quote]Dude stop bitching. I currently play Illum vs Javalis for victory, and this is without the illum buffs. you act like 1 more temple of hostility makes much of a difference, but i feel that if you couple illums, especially the new ones, with a progenitor, javalis will have a realllyyy hard time winning. Practice more, bitch less. Flaks were never meant to counter lrms, and i always thought that was stupid. I'm glad they are getting rid of that.[/quote] Anything becomes bitching whe