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[quote]And again, u had much more then 30 assai and when u kill my cap at least 20 shooted him, so it wasnt your caps[/quote] lol ok even if it was 20 which I think was 15.Your cap was heading to the south to jump.My fleet was near the edge of the well in the south.When your cap was passing roid I told fleet to attack it and it died before it could jump out.It didnt need to turn and was already at max speed and still did not survive even getting close to 15-20 skirantra.Other thing wa

I think its impossible to reason with quar based on stuff HE says even[e digicons];P[/e] Quar I think if fighters were made to have the endurance vs flak that bombers do then that would be a buff to hc in itself.Maybe they could use more I not sure at this point been a long time since I even used them due to endless bomber spam late game. Quar scramble is out of control.2 caps can field like 30-40 bombers thats like freakin 20 carriers!!!!No cap in game ca

[quote]PS: U talking about sb but those Sb were only to your advantage, ill even sugest rat was colaborating. all they did was free xp to your caps , bouth were blown right after building. waste.[/quote] lol wtf omg listen to yourself.That sb took dps away from my fleet lol.Ya i told rat to put a sb up in my well.your talking nonsense. Listen quar I dont care if we nerf tier 0 spamming to balance.I dont tier 0 spam unless am forced to like you did to me.The point is to make AL

Quar no where in any of our convo did we discuss a tier 0 rush.It was all about mid game and late game.Advent is my fav race to play but you cant play them without spamming tier 0 units which as you stated is boring and not fun.Scouts are not combat units they are scouts hence the name SCOUT.I was gearing up for a lrf battle because I thought you were gonna school me on all the cool ilum and tkpush tricks that you stated would work against vas.I have known for a long time that advents tier 0

Quar look at replay by end of game I could have stopped spamming skirms and teced to subs I think I had 4k in the bank. Are replays brokin because my replay doesnt work?It md about 45 min.

lol that game had nothing to do with what we were talkin about.You talk about how good ilums are and tk push yet when you played me you didnt use them once in game.You ran your caps from my fleet the whole game and when you did get close I killed it easy.All tier 0 units except a few flak.Why do I want to play a race where all I can do is spam scouts all game to beat someone.When all advent can do is spam scouts and tier 0 stuff to win I would hardly call balanced.How do you think it would ha

[quote]Perserverance is a regen rather than an instant heal. I can't remember how much it is exactly. I am wanting to say 15 or 25. It also removes any disable on the single target frigate. It takes a lot of micro to counter subverters with it. It is almost easier to use the first ability to single target disable the subs than undisable your fleet.[/quote] Pretty sure its 25 and I dont know how you could use it to counter a sub disable cause it has to face its target and it only effec

[quote]ye advent are so screwed considering lum is their weekest unit but still outmaches assai in cost and spamming ability.[/quote] We touched on spamming already and discovered they equal in cost so they can be spammed equally.Something you forget to consider between these 2 is that kanracks grant you a war without enemy caps which for advent is huge.Advent needs caps to augment there fleet to win.This is on equal eco footing.Skirantra can heal your ships whereever they go which is

[quote]I bet u wil bring an argument about a price of the counter. Here we r hitting the hot spot. Cause vasari generaly costs 30-50% more then other races , so if u need to spend some more to counter, u r just matching vasari expences[/quote] The main frigate spammed in this patch is the lrf.What exactly costs 30-50 % more? Vas only cost 1 lab to get lrf.It is cheapest to unlock.Has cheapest upgrades for damage that benefit both skirantra and just about everyship they build.Cost of i

You really cannot kill flak or carriers with lf in mid game anymore.It is almost garunteed at least 30 lrf in a fleet by then toasting any amounts of lf.Along with 4 levels of pm ups.Also as vasari they dont need carriers by mid game.2 level 3 skirntras can produce like 30 ish bombers in just a few min.Along with the pm ups and the 30 kanracks any caps are toasted within 10-15 seconds.To counter this fleet you would need 60 fighters.In which case you really dont have anything to deal with the

[quote]Also back at the time all this was going on, phasic trap was not highly used and not considered in any balance equation. [/quote] Redonkouslly op against advent since sc is only way to kill sb.Unless they buff starfish by ALOT this ability is crazy.Potentially completely deadlocking a planet for indefinite amounts of time. I think ilum at lab 3 is ok since they get carriers at 2.Its not really a problem except for advent fighters are useless and ilums suck right now.</p

I think fighters need an endurance buff.If they can live longer they can counter lrf and bombers better.Bomber spam late game is also a problem especially for vasari.Thier bombers are hard to kill and kill stuff at an insane rate.Advent need caps to make their fleet powerful and against vasari with 20-30 assailants OR 2 or 3 skirantra and 4 ups is not even an option.Tk push does not work and neither do fighters with a enemy flak.Advent flak do nothing to vas bombers.There really is literally

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[quote]This might be a successful argument... if Advent wasn't also adept at disrupting their enemies in the late-game. Personally as TEC, I fear the Iconus Guardian far more than I fear the Stikulus Subverter. As it stands, it's TEC that's the odd man out, not the other way around.[/quote] lol subs against tec is HORRIBLE. Even when u spread your fleet into 5-8 groups it can own you.Mines completely wipe out your fleet when subs are around.10-15 subs with 5 or 6 minelayers shooting m

[quote] My strategy (very roughly) in the early game is to expand quickly on reduced research maintaining only one, sometimes two, capital ships which I use to invade non-enemy player planets. On the choke points at the phase lines, I put mines, Javelises together with repair platforms and situate the rest close to the centre of the planet. I usually fully upgrade a planet where this has a direct threat from the enemy player, but not planets which have to be reached via my other planets. I us

On easy you should be able to pick 1 cap.Then get a colony ship if you didnt get akkan.Now send you cap to asteroid colo it.PUt 2 civic labs down and move on to next planet colo it.Only civ research you should do is researching colonize for ice or vol.Soon as you can afford put 2 mil labs down and get javs.Have your hw rally set to your cap and q up 2 javs and keep 2 q up at all times for the rest of game.All the while you are colonizing without stopping.If you get free time inbetween researc

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Ya thats what I meant about the rediculous advantages.Thing is I dont want to see all the races balanced ship to ship,dps to fp type balance.Makes the game the same with different skins.What screwed everything up was flak.Races had viable options when carriers were backbones.You could counter things like subverters and lrf then.

[quote]Re-read what I said; I said the bigger issue was that the scout/disciple rush naturally lead to illuminators. On its own, scout/disciple was perfectly beatable, the natural transition to illuminators is what made the kill every time.[/quote] lol I can almost garuntee you in that patch if you were up against cykur and 2-3 jumps away cykur would kill you with nothing but lf and scouts 99% of the time.You may win if he accidentaly fell asleep from boredum of buildings countless lf

I really dont believe the game is supposed to be balanced race to race.Advent are geared to counter tec,vasari to advent and tec to vas.The problem with balance now is that some of the advatages over the others are rediculous.Like way out there.For instance we all know the skirantra is totally out of line.3 caps fielding 50 bomber squads mid game come on.Phase missiles are there too.Not to bad for tec because of hoshis early on.I think advent vs vas would be much more balanced if subjugators

Yep I have had some good ffa tho.You almost need to play with a group where everyone doesnt know each other.That way there is less backstabbing.Backstabbing is not fun.But if you get 3 teams all randomly fighting each other and there is room to expand is fun.

I agree with cykur 100%.I couldnt figure it out either.Sb was only way.IF you did survive with sb your opponent spammed ilums anyway got like50-80 with illusion and killed you sb anyway.Also you could hardly afford to up all your sb if you managed to get a few planets.Im not sure why you try to pick an arguement with cykur since he is prob 2x more skilled at this game.

[quote] I would like to see shield adaptation to damage types implemented, though. Good idea [/quote] This is already ingame with damage modifiers.For example lf do 150% damge(I think is 150)To ships like carriers and flak.

why wont anyone play balance mods?

Dang cykur why didnt you think that.Cykur you noob [e digicons]:P[/e]