A similar idea to that has been proposed for the Revelation's Guidance ability. I think that the concept could be worth doing but I'd rather see it attached to Confluence of the Unity or something instead.
Making GRG only effect hull is reasonable but keeping AFF as an active ability means that the Kol's issues with AM efficiency remain. Giving Militia Weapons and Armour a tier 0 affect would give the TL something unique at the start of the game. Group Shield can't stay online long enough often enough to make a real difference. I'm starting to prefer a different approach to Furious Defense. I think instead it might be a good change if it was made passive as s
[quote who="ZombiesRus5" reply="74" id="3311472"]Really? TEC Loyalists get a 30% weapons and 4 armor buff and just for being in an owned gravity well. I think Fury of the Unity could have been the Tier 2 tech after the first two culture upgrades considering it's only a 10% buff which would help early game but hardly be game changing mid or late game. T8 should be game changing which this is clearly not.[/quote] Fury of the Unity grants a 20% damage buff and Militia Weapons/Armour
Edited OP to include correct time for passive regen nerf granted by Vasari turrets with upgrade. This is even more OP against Titans than I thought. [quote who="GoaFan77" reply="68" id="3311447"]perhaps the tier 2 extra culture tech could give another bonus, like extra antimatter or shield regeneration bonus in culture.[/quote] I had forgotten about this tech. Now that you mention it, I think that the best buff for Confluence of the Unity could be to give it the additional eff
There are different ways to fix this. One possibility is to make Micro-Phase Jump an ability that channels for a few seconds before activating and then after teleportation occurs, it can't use any special abilities for a brief period. This might buy some time for the other player. Also, the cool-down time and possibly range could be tweaked so that it can be caught. The VL Titan is also hard to AM drain because it so rarely uses its special abilities so it usually has plenty of A
[quote who="bilun" reply="26" id="3309646"] A secondary effec would be nice, but it would also go a long way to simply reduce the antimatter cost GRG and make it's cost not scale up with level. GRG adds very substantial DPS if it can actually be spammed, but at present it runs the Kol out of AM fast.[/quote] That's a fair point. This would especially be good early game. My idea centered around making GRG better late game. [quote who="bilun" r
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="15" id="3309391"]GRG has been beaten to death...most nearly everyone agrees it needs a secondary debuff, but which debuff to pick (as well as the duration) has been up for debate...most common picks have been an armor debuff or disabling passive regeneration...personally I favor a shield mitigation penalty since every one and their mother has an ability with an armor debuff...[/quote] Shield mitigation debuff could work but I favour a passive regen debuff
[quote who="Twilight_Storm" reply="9" id="3309309"]1 ) I disagree. It takes away from Vasari's ability to adequately defend their grav wells later in the game without their fleet present. I'm not saying a starbase makes a world safe, but an orky needs to be dealt with before the rest of the grav well can be assaulted, which buys time for your fleet to get there.[/quote] Doesn't matter because Vasari have phase stabilisers. [quote who="Twilight_Storm" reply="9" id="
[quote who="Twilight_Storm" reply="6" id="3309279"]The suggested Nerf to Starbases for vas is ridiculously OP. It would make them utterly and completely worthless for anything but an assault ship that doesn't use a slot. All the non-military upgrades would be worthless. [/quote] That is a reasonable price to pay in order to get what is basically an extra titan. [quote who="Twilight_Storm" reply="6" id="3309279"]What is needed is for the mobilization research to be an add-o
[quote who="GoaFan77" reply="1" id="3309226"] Global Unity should be moved down to tier 3. Now that this gives an allegiance bonus, really I think it's fine where it is.[/quote] Makes sense. [quote who="GoaFan77" reply="1" id="3309226"] Also, what does the * mean?[/quote] The asterisk marks all ideas that are attributed to other people. I did explain it but its easily missed in the wall of text. Any
The purpose of this thread is record all balance issues in one place for easy reference and then to suggest changes. Here I'll list some examples of possible solutions from my own ideas and also ideas that have been floating around on the forums. Ideas that are not my own (which is most of them) are marked with an asterisk. Any input would be greatly appreciated. EDIT: Non-fact
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="1" id="3304822"]AL is considered the weakest faction out of them all (titan is probably the 2nd worst, beating out only the Ankylon)... But, if you are just playing SP well then you can pretty much do whatever you want to do...that being said, the Eradica (AR titan) is one of the better ones (Vasari titans are better) and is pretty much a one man army....get chastic burst on it and rape everything....[/quote] I haven't played Vasari since t
1) Carrier fleets should be kept on the far end of a gravity well, as far away from combat units as possible. 2) Don't give the AI a chance to recover. Siege their planets so that the AI cannot immediately rebuild. Turning pirates off is an option in the game settings, the tab is right next to the victory options tab. 3) The custom map that you are playing is harder than the standard game, no wonder you are struggling. 4) Titans level up when enemy ships in the sam
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When the last enemy ship leaves one of your planets, Expulsion is supposed to give increased income and culture.
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[quote who="bilun" reply="24" id="3227255"] At present Induced reverance, even at 30% allegiance takes comicly long to pay back it's investment cost(starbases & starbase upgrades are damned expensive!). That said though, buffing advent's economy might be a risky move. Their balance up til now has been the militant faction-weaker economy, but a stronger military. If that changes we will need to re-envision the whole advent balance paradigm. Well it's not like eco buf
Making Phase Jumping for SBs cost slots is a pretty good solution but it still allows the VR to have a 'ship' stronger than any capital for no fleet supply. Crazy idea: Phase engines for SBs could become a tier 1 tech that is the prerequisite for remote assembly and also limits starbase upgrade slots to only 4 in total and increases their cost and/or makes them cost a bit of fleet supply. VR SBs would be a little harder to get but far more flexible in the earl
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For the Vasari, lowering bomber DPS and making phase jumping SBs cost fleet supply is a no brainer. Decreasing the movement speed of the Orky sound fair as well. Raised Shield Harmonics, possibly Protection of the Unity and maybe even Ancient Retribution should grant Phase Missile block. If the Subjugator's Perseverance ability had 10000-12000 range then they would be easier to use and could have more of an impact. Since the devs are unlikely to make Advent ships
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="34" id="3221295"]...wail has no "friendly fire" and can affect entire gravity wells, so I do not find the situations equal....[/quote] If wail dealt damage to both enemy and friendly units and structures (and of course, couldn't target friendly wells) that could limit its use. Overlapping wails would hurt the AR player more due to lost labs, trade ports etc. even if the AR scuttled the planet targeted by wail.
Just about all the fixes seem good and some very welcome changes. Fury of the Unity buff is exactly what I thought wasn't need but is still very welcome. Assimilated Populace buff is modest but also welcome. Sadly, AR's Expulsion got slightly nerfed for some reason. This patch has greatly narrowed down the list of what needs to be changed next: Wail should only effect 1 grav-well at a time by making it a targeting ability like a super-weapon or
Very intriguing idea, but it would need to be no higher than T3 since the number of ships that it would buff would be small.
Great post, the devs should read this. Good info, some of these techs especially Planet for a Planet suck even harder than I thought. Suggested changes are all good especially since they don't change the mechanics or the concept too much. That said, Repossession makes a 30% more bombing damage buff somewhat unnecessary as mentioned earlier. If Planet for a Planet also gave a 30% damage boost against planetary structures and a 15% damage boost against enemy SBs, t
Never knew that this was even possible with the game engine, let alone that it was already implemented for cap ships. Very interesting. EDIT: If this is applied on every ability equally, then it won't work all that well. If applied differently on different abilities, than it can, but then it wouldn't really be any different to directly nerfing some abilities anyway.
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="5" id="3202360"]Easier said than done... Anyway, to the OP, frigates aren't useless per se, but they are most certainly marginalized...the game is "Sins of a Titan"...[/quote] That is a slight exaggeration. A Titan without a frigate fleet can very easily have its AM depleted and is then extremely vulnerable. Edit: The Maw rarely comes into play because the VL Titan struggles to get the required exp. It is also easily interru
[quote who="Thurgrim" reply="3" id="3197557"]Thanks, and yeah, I'm more worried about single player right now. Still learning the game and just wanting to try out different strategies. Any other good Vasari Loyalist strategies that I should be practicing? The sheer amount of tech to research is a bit overwhelming, so I've just been sort of grabbing everything when I can. Any particular ships or research lines I should just ignore, build order recommendations, etc... would be appreciat
My brain could not comprehend seeing the words 'Orkulus' and 'underpowered' in the same sentence so I honestly thought that the title said 'overpowered'.
