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This thread is a rather immature jab at the argument the author of the OP and I are having in another thread. He's mocking me for my stance that the advent rebels shouldn't have the benefit of Wail of the Sacrificed pretty much negated by any TEC player with a novalith cannon and half a brain(as it is trivially easy to wipe out a planet's entire population from a nice safe distance). Well I suppose this thread at least does well to demonstr

[quote who="crisaron" reply="34" id="3130642"]Thread tittle -- > Advent Rebels really need a means of defending against novaliths Then big wall of mislleading text. sorry I see no wailing except yours (that was a lame joke). [/quote] Nothing wrong with the thread title: I summarized the proposed goal in the title. I explained the reason for the goal in my post. Wail is the reason a bit of population resistance to novalith is needed. &nbs

[quote who="crisaron" reply="32" id="3130627"]Well read the tittle of the thread, it is about Novalith, if you want to talk abotu wail make a wail thread.[/quote] This is a wail thread- I know, I made the thread after all. The thread is specifically about the interaction between wail and novalith(and the fact that because of wail the advent rebels need a means of protecting some of their population against novalith bombardment). Often threads disc

[quote who="RiddleKing" reply="27" id="3130490"]beta 2a is out : Many techs have low tiers which are good buffs.. Don't expect a Novalith solution anytime soon-maybe never for the advent. [/quote] I don't expect a novalith solution, did you even bother reading my response? Having a dependable partial populace for the purpose of wail of the sacrificed is not a novalith solution. Most of novalith's economic damage comes from it's d

[quote who="RiddleKing" reply="18" id="3130296"]Pro multiplayer matches don't spam novaliths unless they want to die for spending those credits On a 1 star map: advent culture can overwhelm planets when boosted by the star-base placed on the frontline planet while reducing the income of every other enemy planet engulfed by culture: Its the reason why they were never given defenses against the cannon. There star-bases can overthrow planets. You also have

[quote who="RiddleKing" reply="16" id="3130154"]If one player entrenches and builds novaliths behind his walls and the other builds a good defense against that strategy then the 2 could sit far from each other playing simcity. He-wont be building novaliths if hes in trouble- Just build a 1 starbase on your home world with enduring devotion so you don't loose it completely after your population goes down then get your titan out-guardians with repulse, halcyons (20 bomber Squads)

[quote who="SithLordAJ" reply="85" id="3129824"]on the subject of corvettes... what about removing their self-regeneration? shields can recharge, but the HP you have to pull them to a repair bay or bring healing units online.[/quote] Now that is very interesting idea. Probably wouldn't be enough on it's own, but that sort of creative nerf(which doesn't really affect their ability to dot heir job, just how long they can do it) could reduce th

[quote who="TheEvidence" reply="14" id="3130113"]This may not be exactly what you're after, but there's another solution that comes to mind. Wail of the Sacrificed could be split in to two components, a passive and an active. The passive would inherit the "planet pop death -> damage" aspect. (this would make it more powerful in some circumstances :-/) The active would inherit the "population sacrifice" active. So now i

[quote who="ZombiesRus5" reply="39" id="3130048"] Quoting SithLordAJ, reply 38Haven't seen a confirmation, but if zombie says it, and it's not monday, it must be so... Funny, I'm sensing you had a little animosity towards me [/quote] It is taking every bit of willpower I have to restrain my urge to drop a Radiance Battleship themed pun/quip.

[quote who="mcintire" reply="10" id="3129996"]I would prefer a per-planet solution, maybe with a connected investment. We are talking about increasing the probability of using wail of the sacrificed here. If the rate of recharge (it's nothing else in this case) was increased it should be tied to a risk the player has to take. The investment could be money, stop of local culture spread, taking away planetary HP regeneration or decreasing the HP cap, or maybe a combination of thi

[quote who="Efferil" reply="8" id="3129950"]Just to make sure, are you suggesting an Orbital Structure that does this, or that this benefit comes from researching a tech?[/quote] Either or really. I think an orbital structure or some other per-planet investment would be appropriate if possible. But in all honesty I doubt there would be any chance of a new model being produced at this stage in the game. I suppose if it were deemed neces

[quote who="Tridus" reply="22" id="3129894"]Light Frigates aren't a great counter because every time one dies it helps the Titan level. That's why Titans keeping full XP on death[/quote] Yeah, the more I think about the more I'm thinking titans should lose levels on death(maybe not start again at level 1, but there should be a loss). If that were the case though, it would become even mroe important that they do something about the E

[quote who="ZombiesRus5" reply="14" id="3129933"] TargetCountPerBank:FRONT TargetCountPerBank:BACK TargetCountPerBank:LEFT TargetCountPerBank:RIGHT TITAN_PSILOYALIST 3 3 2 2 TITAN_PSIREBEL 4 3 2 2 TITAN_TECHLOYALIST 2 2 3 3 TITAN_TECHREBEL 1 2 2 2[/quote] Thanks, that's extremely informative. I was previously completely unaware that there were suc dintinct differences in the number of targets each titans weapons could be brought

[quote who="MayallCommunion" reply="1" id="3129900"] expulsion to help it syn[/quote] Actually I'd been tinkering with that same exact Idea a week ago or, but had subsequently forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me [e digicons]:grin:[/e] , that is certainly another very viable way of giving the advent rebels the resistance to populationd amage they need. Of course a third option would be to do something wit

The problem: One of the most interesting and faction-defining technologies of the advent rebels is IMO "Wail of the Sacrificed", and between that technology and the % income buff granted by expulsion ti seem clear to me that the Advent Rebels are supposed to be dependent on grabbing and holding high population worlds. Right now in that regard, every TEC loyal player(and some rebels)

It quickly became clear that the income aspect of the Advent Rebel research expulsion was +20% income. But has anyone been able to figure out exactly what sort of culture boost Expulsion grants when the last enemy ship leaves the planet's gravity well? Also has anyone worked out about how long said buffs last?

hmm interesting, I was unaware the Eradica has multiple attack targets per bank. I had thought it simply had some of it's damage on side banks that couldn't attack enemies directly in front of it. If that's the case that certainly makes a sinificant difference. How exactly were you able to run your DPS calculations(which is to say where were you able to find exactly how much if it's DPS can target 2 enemies & such?) Are all of it&#3

[quote who="Admiral_Kiernyc" reply="8" id="3129653"]Orgrov Torpedo Cruisers and Advent Adjudicators should be able to attack titans. They should at least test it to see what happens.[/quote] I can tell you right now what would happen: TEC would gain a hard counter to titans, the ot her 2 races would be more or elss the same as they are now. If a counter to titans is created, it needs to be something equally available to all factions

Honestly I'm really starting to think that frigates should stop giving experience to titans after level 3 or 4 or so. Perhaps increase the experience rewards from destroying buildings & capital ships a bit to compensate. A fleet of frigates should never be a liability.

[quote who="GoaFan77" reply="6" id="3129496"]Well it works on a percentage penalty, the -40% trade income is reducing fewer resources on the slower game.[/quote] That's exactly my point. Because it's percentage based for a static number of resources spent to build the cannon in all speeds it can cause the opponent to lose more credits in one speed setting then another. The result is that the Novalith "pays back" it's cost in economic damage to th

The problem with having ships move a lot more is it cuts down on a player's ability to keep track of the battlefield in larger battles(think 100 ship+ battles), which in turn cuts down on their ability to make strategic decisions. You'd have to be half-insane to keep tracks of 50+ allied ships & 50+ enemy ships, tracking where most ships of each type are concentrated at a give moment.

Just had a thought: shouldn't novalith's duration scale down based on the game's resource speed? As it is in faster speeds it actually causes greater economic damage then in slower speeds(more resources lost). Considering that the cost of researching and building a novalith is constant this seems like an oversight.

hmmm, guess no one knows. Looks like I'll be testing this one myself.

[quote who="Pbhead" reply="70" id="3129212"]corvettes basicly already have their own armor type. its only shared currently with fighters, which, only take damage from other fighters and flack frigs... so medium-titan modifiers are totally touchable without affecting previous balance. [/quote] This is true, but adjusting the damage they take would be a difficult way to balance th

[quote who="MadCowKing" reply="8" id="3128875"]Instead of having the Eradica's 6th level ability activate when it dies, it should just make the ship more powerful relative to how much damage it has taken. [/quote] That could certainly be interesting. My only concern is that Strength of the Fallen already fails to be a sufficient reason for the opponent to focus the Eradica rather then it's attendent fleet. Adding a new level 6 ability like that would