The mod team have explained why they aren't going to make the mod for the original game several times already and it's not like they're going to change their decision for you. It's alot of effort to create a superb mod like this in the first place but I really doubt the team have the man power to create new versions of the mod for different versions of the game.

Also the fact that Entrenchment is peanuts price wise and offers so much extra content should make it a no brainer that you should have it. I'm not trying to insult you dtrford12 but I would strongly advise that you try with everything in your power to get entrenchment.

I have said before that older versions of sins would not be supported with the mod. Every patch breaks the mod and it has to be re-built from scratch damn near every time sins itself is updated. Now we have Entrenchment. As loki said it is a no brainer why you should get it. Its dirt cheap, adds so much to the game, and has much more content. Which benefits SoA 2 tremendously.

We have said we would not update the mod for regular sins anymore, because there really is no point to. Plus we are only 3 active members with a few more supporting us from time to time (greatly appreciated BTW).

If we had a full crew (10 or more people both modelers, and code monkeys) helping on a full time basis then 2 versions could be possible, but i dont see it happening. Especially since all the offers for mod help i got were "i cant mod, but i can give you suggestions to death".

Ummmmm. will the next patch have starbases in it ?

well most of the fed star base are easy cause they are symetical but ds9 which is one of the ones I am try program my self is taking a make toll on myself

I mostly got the ring but the docking ports are quite hard, given i am program from notepad and using autodesk part time lol, and since the model isn't done yet, textures hasn't even come close

Haven't posted in awhile but I have been keeping track of this mod in anticipation. I look forward to playing it! I also just updated my graphics card drivers just to be sure I am ready. Keep up the great work guys!

When you say regularly, is weekly an ok thing, or do you want a day by day replay?

weekly is fine, gives people time to test new updates

Well except for the federation everything will have to be from imaginations

well we kinda know what cardassian ships yards will look like, I think the episode when kira and the resistance goes to one and steals a breen weapon, that one was a cardassian shipyard/factory

that is more of a dominon yard than cardassian and that model is more complex that the one i am suggest but it depends on what the team decides

We are also still giving our findings to Dragoon, right (I know I should have asked this in my other thread, sorry)?

OK than, I just played the Federation for the first time today, and I have a few comments to make/questions to ask,

Firstly, as a bug I found after researching the repair platform, I was neither able to build it, nor wwere any of my shipyards able to repair.  This is pretty major, because it will seriously change the balance of the game if the federation can't repair their ships (but I'm guessing that this is just a bug).

Upgraded shield emitters is mispelled (you guys have "sheild" instead of shield).

There are absolutely no craft that can capture mining extractors (such as those in nebula clouds), not sure if this is purposeful, but if klingons have it, I think Federation should have it.

I love the fact that you left almost every single Capital ship with abilities they can use.  Really changes the game a lot to have a use for that darn anti-matter.

The Federation starbases look fantastic guys.  Way to go and I can tell you put someeffort into them, just onw quick question though, are you guys going to give us bases for the starbases as well (like the ones the special new ships in entrenchment build), or are you going to stay with the ones that entrenchment has already?  Also, are you going to replace the ship that builds those kind of starbases with a Star Trek equivalent (I am thinking this is all in the works, but it couldn't hurt to ask)?

I also love the fact that you renamed some of the researches to be more "Trek like", adds a better feel to the game.

As for the rest of these, they are more of suggestions, rather than findings:

The Torpedoe and Shield research for the Federation is WAY too pricey (I spent most of my time researching technologies to build craft, rather than the actual research to build the craft), might want to cut their prices in half if you want games to get to battles quicker.

The Excelsior Refitis more expensive to research than either the Galaxy Class or Sovereign Class, and requires "Quantum Torpedoe's" researched.  This doesn't make any sense at all, since it is the lowest level Capital ship, you might want to drop the "Quantum Torpedoe" research and cut the price in half.

Without any sort of Mining Station or anything similar that boosts mining resources, I found myself heavily lacking in the resource department and spending most of my credits purchasing things from the "Black Market".  In the T.V. series, there are multiple references to new mining techniques that the Federation is researching, don't you think they should have something that allows them to increase this resource?

Finally, without any basic training, it took FOREVER! to level my Capital ships.  Shouldn't the Federation have a "Basic Training" research item titled something like "Star fleet academy"?

Thanks again sooo much for allowing me to join in on this, and I hope that some of these suggestions don't sound too picky (I'm just giving my honest opinion).  I mean you guys are doing great for a staff of 3.5, and like I said before, if you need a code monkey, by all means I'm your man.  Anywho thanks again and sorry for all the inane babbling, hopefully you guys can look into some of this stuff and make the proper adjustments where YOU see fit.

Take care.

lol yea fixed my typoes

Now let me ask you a question                  Would you dare attack this ???????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   Resistance is Futile ! 

wow i'm shookt at how good that looks! also i'm better now so i can play again but i lost my beta acedentely after reformat my pc.