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Sage, I never said they were useless. I said you don't know what points are monitored. You you can not reasonably use them as a diagnostic tool because you have variables that you can not account for. You really just like to argue don't you. Tell you the truth your don't confuse me with the facts style is impressive. So why haven't you loaded up the debugger and presented this conclusive evidence? Put up or shut up. You prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. I am not argueing that you

[quote]your debug screenshots do NOT necessarily conflict with the evidence provided by the endgame graphs.[/quote]uh, these are the specific ones I was refuting. So yes they do. [quote]Quoted wnmnkh [link="http://www.the-firestorm.com/Example1.jpg"]www.the-firestorm.com/Example1.jpg[/link] [link="http://www.the-firestorm.com/Example2.jpg"]www.the-firestorm.com/Example2.jpg[/link] [link="http://www.the-firestorm.com/Example3.jpg"]www.the-firestorm.com/Example3.jpg[/link

I didn't know where to put this so. I thought I would ask the modders since more than a few of you are graphically inclined. If its too dumb a question just let it drop. My imagination just isn't up to the task of how these suckers sit down and lounge around. Let alone what the cockpit of a fighter would look like.

[quote]But then there definitely is a bug - the first & third income charts don't jibe! They conflict.[/quote] Still only a possible bug as those charts are more for entertainment value than use as a debugging tool. You can as a player derive some really useful information from them. But you don't know exactly what informational points they are monitoring or even that all the points are always on the same scale. I like them though, but I wouldn't ask the Devs to spend hours of there valuable

[quote]I've actually had an ai on normal compete with me for control of those asteroids before. Was this just a fluke? lol[/quote] No I have too. I leave the AI on random but I'm pretty sure that at least the agressive AI goes after them. Not sure if any of the others do.

[quote]Wow, this must be an imaginary thread of blah blah b blah blah. So what ether way. The Ai sucks generally. Doesn't do anything decisive. It moves in penny packs of ships usually. ON HARD yes. Generally you need to team 2 up just to be a challenge.[/quote] Well thanks for your enlightened opinion. Right on topic too. So I take it Dark Cloud that you could program a better AI one that doesn't suck. I bow to you. Your the Man. Sorry for all the blah blah though sometimes I don't kno

[quote]Hmm, just curious: In FoePa's screenies the debug output states hard AI credits being 3030.2 vs. 3020.1 for player - assuming the game was paused all the time, would that not indicate hard AI indeed get's a bonus?[/quote] Actually no, I even put it in the caption that is after 1 sec. The human was at zero. I my fingers got a little key happy and I hit the pause instead of the printscreen, first. So it was just a single heartbeat before realizing my mistake and repausing. <br/

Well said Dead- You make your points quite eloquently. I find my self at a slight disadvantage, since I know what OP means by context only. It actual definition eludes me. Gameplay and balance issues are indeed important and during the development Betas 1-4, feedback of this type would be appropriate. In fact this may be where the Devs want them even now. My not liking them here is entirely for selfish reasons. In my mind the content of the 1.1 patch has already been determine

I said I wouldn't post here again and I apologize. I can't say anything definitive about the Hard AI not getting a boost. This is why I doubt it. These are the realtime screenshots from the beginning of a game. [link="http://www.dspangler.com/soase/ScreenShots.html"]screenshots from sins_developer.exe_game_vs_hard_AI[/link] Make your own decisions. I am done here. (:(

[quote]well IN THE SINS UNIVERSE,[/quote] Look I have a had a bad day and maybe you don't deserve this. If indeed they shot donuts, then that is what we would have to deal with isn't it? Well isn't it. Everyone posts in the damn beta thread and no one talks about the beta. Its all this conjecture, why don't we change this into an entirely different game where you can have battles in space or the defenses do something entirely different than they way they opera

[quote]I read it, read all of the posts[/quote] [quote]I'll look at the pictures again[/quote] From you I get- [quote]That's really -I am serious now, no more jokes for you- ignorant in extreme.[/quote] I am not joking, I disagree with you thats all. Your the one that came off as condescending by inferring that I had not even read your theory and investigated it myself. If you are making this personal by calling me ignorant, I would ask that you back off.<

[quote]No I was paying attention and never got a confirmation dialog of any sort I was installing the 1.09b patch and Impulse was NOT setup to show pre-release versions, at least not to my knowledge and yet I ended up with the beta[/quote] I apologize if that came off sounding, off. I meant that you just clicked the buttons expecting it to install and it did. Not that you were clueless or anything. If I came off that way sorry. The Beta statement was a general comment and not d

I read it, read all of the posts, I don't agree with you. I'll look at the pictures again when you learn to program a link thanks. My source is from in game, the debugger actually. I can't verify a thing you say. I can verify that the Unfair AI indeed gets a boost. The Hard AI gets no boost as far as I can see. My research is no less valid than yours. I will not represent one hour of research under uncontrolled conditions and a single map as fact. It is enough to cast

This is an interesting topic. I have an opinion on it, but for the life of me. I can't figure out why its under the Beta Feedback Header? In the context of the SINS Universe, the defenses are appropriate. They weren't needed and now your in the thick of it. They are what they are and I use them when appropriate. Don't change a thing for me.

This is the Beta Feedback forum. You should try the Technical forum and if you get no help there. Email: [email protected][link="https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/174432"]Start here and good luck.[/link]

[quote]Sometimes I wonder how people can be ignorant like this.... There are already proofs around here. You merely decide to not read them and be stupid[/quote] You believe everything you read then? If enough other people say its true it must be true. Everyone who does not agree with said conjecture is stupid? Ask yourself this- What reason does the Developer have to withhold the truth about this. Whats the percentage, whats in it for them? Why would they lie? It

[quote]I can't do that as I've already installed the 1.1 update, unintentionall[/quote] Sure you can just uninstall then follow the Monks instructions. It would not have offered you the beta if your preferences had not been setup to show prerelease versions. Even then you had to make the choice to install beta. Regardless you weren't paying that much attention its understandable. All hope is not lost 1) move the version you have installed to another location. 2) then rein

I always play windowed on both my desktop and laptop and have never had anything like that happen. Are you sure it isn't machine specific? Anyone else have this problem?

[quote]Ok, assuming thats true, whats the benefit of playing TEC then?[/quote] Technology wise they are the least advanced. With TEC you have a logistical advantage that's hard to beat if you play it right. Advent can wipe you out with culture if played correctly. Military Might alone is not enough in SINS. Try playing each race to learn their strengths and weaknesses.

[size="4"][B]How a Genius Defeats Sins[/B][/size] [quote][size="4"][B]Something extremely wrong with this game[/B][/size] Playing on a large map, everything is fine until I attack one of the races who have the "crusader" ships. I have 7 battleships and 60 cruisers in my fleet. Their fleet is comparable. Now, cannot kill a single one of their ships. I cannot even get my ships to obey orders and actually shoot something. Not a single ship follows orders and targets what I tell it

[quote]I still maintain I bent the space-time continuum. Because it sounds that much cooler.[/quote] I think you both do I read alot of posts, but stick mostly to the beta area. Your everywhere, all the time!!! Bent space time for sure ;) Well enough thread diverting time to let this one get back on topic. :LOL:

[quote]He's beating me now[/quote] [link="https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/info/3211686"]Clears throat, faus pas I believe. ;)[/link]

If you keep reading you will also find out that there is a utility called ConvertData.

[quote]What graphics card are you running?[/quote] Kitkun are you getting enough sleep? It is not like you to miss easy things.[link="https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/319061/page/4/#1819635"]Its in the post that started you having this conversation. ATI Radeon 9250 (256 MB)[/link] [B]Just Kidding[/B] ;) Actually with as many helpful posts as you make a day. I'm suprised you can remember anything! :).

[quote]I think I read that they will, but don't know when.[/quote] I think I read that too. It was in conjuction with a release of the mod tools for 1.1 I believe, so all the mods could be updated. I can't seem to find that post again. If anyone knows where it is could you provide a link please? Meanwhile I would just like a copy of the dev.exe for testing of the beta if at all possible. How bout it SD/IC I promise I won't abuse it.