Pat_22_

[quote who="PatFenis" reply="9" id="3154332"]For titan, you have to build the damn factory first and 4 lvl of research too. and are you seriously comparing a lvl 1 titan and fully upgraded star base?[/quote] You've also got to pay for the Star Base research, as well as the star base contruction itself which is more expensive than a titan factory. Any other special upgrades must also be researched to add further cost. And no, I'm not compairing

I think it randomly varies between a dead asteroid or an asteroid belt.

[quote who="PatFenis" reply="7" id="3154317"]plus your don't have to level the thing, upgrade is fast and with up to 16 strikecraft...[/quote] And only 1800 credits, 275 metal and 150 crystal too, for a fully 8/8 upgraded star base, that only comes to 14600 credits, 2200 metal and 1200 crystal, which is only 5100 credits, 950 metal and 450 crystal MORE than the Titan. Wait, wasnt the whole point of this to save money?

[quote who="AseOfSpadez" reply="4" id="3154299"]The fact is, Titans are moveable firepower that give you great abilities and starbases are just hyped up weapons platforms.[/quote] But the VR star bases are moveable as well, thus the nature of this thread.

Due to the lack of actual data in Sins, I've begun theorycrafting numbers. A fully upgraded terran planet has 6000 HP and a population probably superior to that of Earth today, observed through the illumination of civilization on the planet's dark side, as well as the massive ( obviously exaggerated but still count as massive ) cities that can be seen from orbit. For the sake of having something to compare it to, we'll assume it's got the population of Earth.</

[quote who="XubXub" reply="24" id="3154286"]Quoting Pat_22_, reply 22Not that firing it non stop wouldn't be fun as hell, but you know, sometimes friendly targets might get in the way. A slug from that hitting one of your own cities might not be good for your empire ( alliegance rate drops by 90%? ) Yeah, I somehow think there would be consequences. Fun visual, though. http://www.youtube.com/watch

But you can't have two starbases pounding at the enemy at the same time. You CAN, however, have on starbase and one titan pounding at the enemy at the same time.

[quote who="sporemaster" reply="36" id="3154268"]how do you make the Vasari Loyalist titan your homeworld? [/quote] You upgrade it in the empire tree.

[quote who="MayallCommunion" reply="32" id="3154261"]You can get capital ships from Dark Armada as a Vasari Loyalist.[/quote] Didn't think about it before but doesn't that nullify the whole "they're dependant on their capital ships" that you used to justify their capital ships giving them more income than trade ports as well as acting as labs? Lost some cap ships? Just darkfleet yourself some right back in. Oh, sure, they won't be high level, but

[quote who="Valkyness" reply="21" id="3154235"]Quoting Pat_22_, reply 17 Quoting MayallCommunion, reply 16Also the TEC-R titan looks like a giant gun. badass. That's because it IS a giant gun. Approximately a 20km long gauss rail cannon. With more guns attached to it, and even more guns inside it, and some missiles launchers. Oh, and I believe there's an engine somewhere in all that firepower. <br

[quote who="Yottsu" reply="28" id="3154246"]Quoting MayallCommunion, reply 20Has anyone found out the hint to whats chasing the Vasari yet? I have no found it. Well... I did find something awhile back before the Vasari were introduced (even before the Advent were as well), though I am not sure if it anything... I am speculating on the off chance that what I did find was a hint. We know that the Vasari Loyalists have a separate "Returning Armada" research tech; the Vasari

[quote who="MayallCommunion" reply="16" id="3154213"]Also the TEC-R titan looks like a giant gun. badass.[/quote] That's because it IS a giant gun. Approximately a 20km long gauss rail cannon. With more guns attached to it, and even more guns inside it, and some missiles launchers. Oh, and I believe there's an engine somewhere in all that firepower.

[quote who="PatFenis" reply="24" id="3154204"]Is phase missle broken? It doesn't bypass the shield.[/quote] Advent have recieved an in-culture buff that reduces the chance for phase missiles to bypass shields. 20% chance reduction, I believe? This may be what you're experiencing.

[quote who="Andy_Armstrong" reply="2" id="3154201"]Yeah, that's my problem I guess- it could stay where it is if there was just something for the flame to stick out of! Also, why is the flame so small? It looks like a frigate engine is powering the titan [e digicons]8(|[/e] , especially when you look at some of the engines on the cap ships...[/quote] That bugs me too because it smashes my Advnet Psitech drive theory for the Discord Battleship! >:( <

Notice it doesnt even actually have an engine, there's just the flame coming out of nothing at all.

[quote who="Ccowboyjoe777" reply="14" id="3154141"]32 to be exact. 4*8=32, but nonetheless its extra space. However, I will have to say once again because they become dependent on this mobile fleet, if they suffer any losses, its going to really hurt them as compared to other races.[/quote] That's 8 imperial labs and 8 military labs, so 32x2, so yes, 64. And while it makes the reliant on these capital ships to remain alive, they on

True, true. But even with 4 capital ships you've eliminated the need to have any actual labs, freeing up a total of 64 logistics slots through your empire to be filled with something else more valuable, say trade ports or frigate factories?

Alright so I'm playing with the VL right now and I must say, aesthetically speaking, their Titan is the most beautiful deadly weapon of mass destruction in the game. Watching it fly around in a space battle just beats the hell out of any other Titan. Secondly, the ability to use your cap ships to generate income, and a considerable amount of income too, as well as using them as labs, means VL will have an extremely powerful economy. This worries me.

[quote who="crisaron" reply="11" id="3154019"]The whole space rocket thing too then... It's a huge cylinder, with bulging rockets strapped to it...[/quote] Wait... which space rocket? The Orgov?

[quote who="Brazilian_Joe" reply="9" id="3153978"]Quoting Pat_22_, reply 5 I prefer the race of powerful psionic beings with unique and advanced technology. (Granted the Vasari are far older and have better tech but the Advent mix their tech with their psionic powers, creating different kinds of tech...) You mean the femdom sect with phallic/dildonic ship shapes? That starbase is their poster child, a round hole with a cylindric peg at its rim... &

UHm.... I just ran into a Dwarf Planet with an absolutely MASSIVE gravity well...?

[quote who="Mrkz81" reply="4" id="3153936"]Quoting Pat_22_, reply 2 They're here? You know, I don't usually play Vasari, because of... well... galactic slavers and all, not really my thing. Plus their voices annoy me. A lot. But tonight, I will play both Loyalist and Rebel Vasari. Lol I've always hated their voice for some reason too ... but they rock [/quote]</p

[quote who="Mrkz81" reply="1" id="3153927"]VASARI have left the phaaaaaase spaaaaaace tonight everyone will play vAsari and please ignore diablo III it's so bad !!! [/quote] They're here? You know, I don't usually play Vasari, because of... well... galactic slavers and all, not really my thing. Plus their voices annoy me. A lot. But tonight, I will play bot

[quote who="Ryat" reply="1" id="3153751"]It seems that even the Corsev is now getting the "love" as people figure it out. I even got to play around with the new Vasari cap and its very interesting.[/quote] Dun matter, the Corsev still looks like a space lunchbox or something.

I just stopped paying for Blizzard products entirely.